Multiple Cruncher Monitoring

Phil
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I've been poking around the forums and haven't found anything recent for my specific situation.

While I do have a couple of Windows machines, those will eventually be migrated to Linux.

Since BoincTasks is a Windows program, it needs Wine to run on Linux. If I choose not to install a Windows program, what is a good alternative?

Eventually I want to run most of my machines headless. I would like to monitor Boinc and do admin tasks remotely. I currently have six machines and it's going to get out of hand real quick when I add more.

I much prefer a graphical solution, if possible.

Thanks all.

Phil

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Ian&Steve C.
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There's a linux native

There's a linux native version of BoincTasks called 'BoincTasks JS'

 

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Phil
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Ian&Steve C. wrote:There's

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

There's a linux native version of BoincTasks called 'BoincTasks JS'

 

Lol. I wonder how I missed that. The two links are right next to each other. I'll start digging into it.

Is JS what you use?

Thank you.

Phil

 

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Keith Myers
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The JS version is what I use

The JS version is what I use after starting with the Wine option with the Windows BT.  It is mostly functionally similar to the Windows version with just a few things different or missing.  Entirely usable for monitoring a fleet of Boinc crunchers.

 

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Phil wrote: Lol. I wonder

Phil wrote:

Lol. I wonder how I missed that. The two links are right next to each other. I'll start digging into it.

Is JS what you use?

Thank you.

Phil

 



I don't, no. I've never been overly impressed with BT in general, and I'm comfortable just managing the hosts directly and remotely using VPN/SSH/VNC. For hosts that I want to manage some boinc level stuff without using endless boinccmd commands, i'll just connect a local Boinc Manager to the remote host.

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Phil
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I'm just looking for an

I'm just looking for an "easy" way to do this. I'll be adding more hosts as time and funds allow. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but that's why I built my latest host. I purposely built it as a "test bed" of sorts. If I screw it up and dump it, I'm not losing much RAC until I get it back online.

I tried Windows Remote Desktop for my windows machines. I haven't got a clue why, but it kept shutting down my gpus.

I am far from good at this and have a lot to learn, but I will probably turn my back on windows altogether. The cost is just not worth it, imo.

I'm going to try JS then later I'll get into learning how to do VPN/SSH/VNC.

Thanks for the info.

Phil

 

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Keith Myers
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Windows Remote Desktop does

Windows Remote Desktop does not allow controlling a host running Boinc gpus work. A basic flaw that has never been addressed.  SSH/VNC is the way to go.

Ubuntu has a built-in program called Remmina that does SSH/VNC. Mint has the same program.

 

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I'm currently focusing on

I'm currently focusing on Mint. It just seems to fit my brain better. Good to know those are included.

It will be nice to not have to buy yet another monitor for each machine.

Do you know if I can use JS to access my windows and mac machines?

Phil

Edit: I'm interested in JS because if I'm reading it right (I haven't installed it yet) I can just scroll down and look at all my crunchers at once.

Phil

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GWGeorge007
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Phil wrote: I'm currently

Phil wrote:

I'm currently focusing on Mint. It just seems to fit my brain better. Good to know those are included.

It will be nice to not have to buy yet another monitor for each machine.

Do you know if I can use JS to access my windows and mac machines?

Phil

Edit: I'm interested in JS because if I'm reading it right (I haven't installed it yet) I can just scroll down and look at all my crunchers at once.

Yes, you can just scroll down and look at all your crunchers at once with JS.  But...  While I do use JS to view all 3 of my crunchers (when running), I also have a cheaper version than buying a monitor for each computer. 

I use a KVM Switch ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B7RW4NTT?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 ) and a GS108 NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch ( https://www.newegg.com/netgear-gs108-400nas-8-x-rj45/p/12K-008X-00026?Item=9SIBGF7JPC8864 ) which when connected appropiatly to my 55" Samsung TV can give me all the live data that Ian suggests he gets (but all computers must be within reach of the switches) and I have no monitors, just a TV with at least 3 HDMI ports.

I know that they make larger Ethernet Unmanaged Switches (as much as 24?), but I'm not sure if they make KVM Switches big enough to handle the number of computers that you may have planned on.  Still, it is an easily navigatable setup.

Like you, I'm kind of a novice when trying to figure out all of the nuances of connectivity, but I'm learning.  And I prefer to have my connections hardwired as opposed to software controlled.  I'm also still learning Linux Ubuntu, but with the help of Keith and Ian, and to an extent others, I'm moving along quite well.  So much so that I will never go back to Windows again. I was a firm believer in Windows 10 Pro and was reluctant to move to Windows 11, which when I think back, moving to Linux Ubuntu was one of the best moves I ever made.

HTH

George

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Phil
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My computers are in different

My computers are in different rooms so I don't think a KVM switch would work, although it did enter my mind. Thankfully the BestBuy near me had a pallet of cheap ($89) 24" monitors to get me by until I can figure all this out. I plan on eventually having as many as a dozen computers.

I have a 16 port unmanaged switch but I still have some computers on wifi. I live in an apartment and I can't drill a hole to wire up the computers in the other room. I also am a fan of cables instead of wifi, but it will do until I move next summer to better digs.

Keith and Ian and some others have been a big help and very patient with me. I've learned a lot but have a long way to go. Perfect way to keep my mind busy in retirement.

Phil

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GWGeorge007
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Well,  I just thought I would

Well,  I just thought I would chip in my 2 cents worth of advice.  Good luck with your move to whatever!

George

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